@mothwick asked: You asked for questions about outdoors-y stuff, and so… I’ve just organized a kayak building workshop (with Kiliii – took me seven years to get here!) but it’s in January. I’ve never paddled in cold temps and I don’t anticipate waiting ‘til the weather warms to paddle my kayak. So! what are your recommendations for cold weather paddling gear? I’ve been doing research and I am still very confused. Farmer John + something + drytop? + something underneath the wetsuit???

Hey congrats! Kiliii is fantastic, you’ll love him (and your new kayak!)!!! I’m not sure how much useful cold-weather paddling advice I have, since in my household the paddling season historically ends when September does, but I have kayaked in cold water, at least, and certainly done other winter sports. Exactly what you wear is going to depend a lot on the expected water and air temps, though, and expected conditions/location of the paddle.

I always wear neoprene booties under my Tevas in cold water, and I think they can be combined with wool socks for extra warmth- one of the things about a skin-on-frame kayak is that there is very little material between your body and the water, so even if your spray skirt is working fine you’re going to really feel the water temp anywhere your body touches the sides. I’d add a fleece between the farmer john and the drytop (ideally one that zips down the front so if you get too warm you can de-layer easily), and neoprene or fleece gloves as well. Wool hat or, better, one of those neoprene hoods divers wear.

Honestly your best bet for cold-weather paddling advice is going to be Kiliii himself though- you’ll have access to a real expert and should take advantage of him! I hope that was at least a little helpful, though (and I asked my father, who has been kayaking far longer than I’ve been alive, and he pretty much confirmed my recommendations). 

You can’t just make a post like this and then NOT GIVE US THAT INFORMATION (unless it was just dream-you that knew but I fully believe real-you knows it too).

oh, you’re right, I forgot to put that in the tags, sorry! The Tulip Tree is properly Liriodendron tulipifera and is native to eastern north america, but  been on my mind since the city of Seattle for some reason decided to use them in several parks and roadside plantings in the last few decades, so we’ve got quite a few young ones around the city. 

they’re in the magnolia family, but not very closely related to any other north american magnolias, and they have very distinctively shaped leaves, and really bizarre flowers:

my instinctive response to that is always “oh, it might be FINE, but it won’t be remotely GOOD”. it works in that it generates a thing that you can look at with your eyes… you just wish that you couldn.t

omg nen I’m definitely going to start saying that when people ask me to critique bad design “well, it’s…. a thing you can look at with your eyes…”